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:Because on Wikipedia all pages in main namespace, except redirects (and I guess disambiguation pages) count as articles (Pages with content, first cell stats on Special:Statistics) – major difference which is key in this whole discussion is that pages with no wikilinks count on Wikipedia, here they currently don't count, so I gave reference by saying that after this change it will be here "as on Wikipedia". Do we agree that after changing method to 'all' here, even that on Wikipedia it is not 'all' (at least as you said), counting will be generally same as on Wikipedia (articles with no wikilinks also count, redirects don't count; main two factors for users both here and on Wikipedia)? If this is not true, could you explain differences that would exist after changing on this wiki to 'all' and current Wikipedia way of counting Pages with content (in terms of what counts, what does not)?
:Even if pages with no wikilinks do not count on Wikipedia, proposal is still valid and clear (change $wgArticleCountMethod to „any” for this wiki): we want here and on Wikisource (especially here on Wikiquote) that such pages count because there are many such pages and it is not fair to have stats 224 at Main page when there is at least 1500 real articles (on https://sr.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Special:AllPages&hideredirects=1, without italicized items which are redirects). You gave example of [[Херман Хесе]] yourself, and that page really is an article – probably better than some which has only one quote but with some valid wikilink which will "activate it" so that it suddenly "becomes" article. [e] --[[Корисник:Obsuser|Obsuser]] ([[Разговор са корисником:Obsuser|разговор]]) 23:41, 15. август 2017. (CEST)
:: "''pages with no wikilinks count on Wikipedia''" No, that is not true. That's my point. Before the settings change, this wiki and sr.wiki both counted articles in exactly the same way. On sr.wiki, a page (still) counts as an "article" (reflected in the "Content pages" = "Странице са садржајем" = "Stranice sa sadržajem" entry at [[w:Special:Statistics]]) if:
::# it is in a "content namespace" (on that wiki, only the main namespace);
::# it is not a redirect page; and
::# it contains at least one "internal style" <nowiki>[[wikilink]]</nowiki> to a page title on the same wiki.
:: That is how the "link" method of article counting (<code>$wgArticleCountMethod='link'</code>) works. Almost all Wikimedia content wikis use that counting method. (BTW, [[w:Special:Diff/14800582|these]] two [[w:Special:Diff/14800583|edits]] I just made at sr.wiki verify that the article counting there does indeed work that way.)
:: After the settings change, a page on ''this wiki'' now counts as an article if:
::# it is in a "content namespace" (on this wiki, only the main namespace); and
::# it is not a redirect page.
:: That is how the "any" article counting method (<code>$wgArticleCountMethod='any'</code>) works. (Note that neither counting method counts redirects as articles.) - [[Корисник:Dcljr|dcljr]] ([[Разговор са корисником:Dcljr|разговор]]) 05:25, 16. август 2017. (CEST)
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